(Still-Powerful-Today) Bill Moyers, LBJ'S #1 AIDE: "Get That God-damned bubble [top] off unless it's pouring rain."

Photos #1 & #2: Look carefully, and you'll see the back window of the Presidential Limo's "bubble top" is surrounded with a vinyl cover --

making an accurate shot from the rear difficult,
if not impossible...the "bubble top" is well-covered overhead, as well....this is what Bill Moyers did NOT want!

PHOTO #2:.... Kennedy's limo had a totally 'clear' bubble top such as in this photo ...and jfk CAN BE SEEN RIDING IN THIS LIMO WITH ITS CLEAR BUBBLE TOP. However, THE 'BUBBLE TOP' WAS COVERED WITH A DARK VINYL FABRIC ON NOV. 22 --SEE PHOTO #1-- AT PARKLAND HOSPITAL, EFFECTIVELY HIDING A VIEW OF THE CAR'S INTERIOR --AND MAKING IT HARD TO SEE THE FRONT ENTRY HOLE IN THE WINDSHIELD FROM THE REAR! THAT WINDSHIELD WAS QUICKLY REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH A 'NEW' WINDSHIELD THAT HAD JUST A CRACK IN IT! SEE STORY, BELOW.

AN OUTRIGHT LIE IS STILL BEING BROADCAST BY THE MEDIA --THAT KENNEDY ORDERED THE BUBBLE-TOP -- WHICH COULD HAVE SAVED THE PRESIDENT --OFF HIS CAR ON THAT DIRE NOVEMBER MORNING, NOVEMBER 22, 1963, IN DALLAS.

BUT NOW THE JFK ASSASSINATION FORUM HAS POSTED SOME IMPORTANT POINTS ABOUT KENNEDY'S LIMO --AND WHO REALLY ORDERED THE 'BUBBLE TOP' OFF--LBJ AID BILL MOYERS! --MOYERS IS STILL ALIVE --AND POWERFUL. HIS WAS ONE OF THE LOUD VOICES DEMANDING THAT 'THE LOVE AFFAIR,' ';'THE GUILTY MEN' AND 'THE SMOKING GUNS' HAD TO BE BANNED--OR ELSE HE'D SUE THE HISTORY CHANNEL!-- READ HERE HOW MOYERS ORDERED THE 'G-D BUBBLE TOP' TO BE REMOVED FROM KENNEDY'S LIMO!

March 21, 2011, 01:15:34 PM JFK ASSASSINATION FORUM POSTS

"The oft repeated statements that security was stripped and reduced at JFK's orders because he didn't want SS agents or motorcycles blocking the view of the crowd and that he also requested the removal of the "bubble top" for the same reasons are patently false as researcher Vince Palamara has documented. Palamara "has stated that the usual array of motorcycles was four abreast of the limousine, with one placed at each fender; on many occasions there were twelve to eighteen motorcycles near the limousine. He also maintained that Gerald Behn, the head of the White House Detail, and Floyd Boring (second in command) both assured him that JFK never vetoed or modified any Secret Service protection and that any claims to the contrary were incorrect."

"The "bubble-top" had been removed from the presidential limousine at Love Field, as requested by Bill Moyers, LBJ's long-time past and future aide." "Moyers had been on the phone to Ms. Harris, informing her that the President did not want the bubble top. He told Harris to "get that God-damned bubble off unless it's pouring rain." "Moyers was not JFK's assistant . . . he was of course, actually one of Lyndon Johnson's longtime assistants." This is all documented in Phillip F. Nelson's "LBJ - The Mastermind of JFK's Assassination". Nelson goes on to state that "such gratuitous profanity by an ordained Baptist minister (Moyers) is a little odd in the context of this situation, considering that it had been raining all morning. It begs the question of whether Moyers was the real initiator of the request, or whether he was simply passing on a demand from his boss, LBJ, known to be habitually profane and strident in practically all situations (a general exception existed whenever cameras were near, of course, in which case a broad smile replaced his scornful gaze. All things considered, it can be assumed that Moyers was merely mouthing words originally screamed by Lyndon B. Johnson, in comparable stridency."
"...The term "bubble-top" became widely used to describe the removable top apparently because it was made mostly of plastic, even though the connotation of the term was that the top resembled a bubble. In fact, the top was much more than a clear "bubble" over a big convertible; it was a very formal design with a vinyl covering, which transformed the convertible into a limousine with a very small rear window. As such, it would make it nearly impossible for a sniper to see the occupants clearly enough to aim at any of them from above."

"The first photograph, Exhibit CE 345 of the Warren Report, shows the actual top that was carried in the car's trunk; the second shows it installed shortly after it arrived at Parkland Hospital... the black vinyl covering would obviously have made it impossible for anyone to have a reasonably clear shot at JFK."

(all quotes are from Phillip F. Nelson’s “LBJ – The Mastermind of JFK’s Assassination” (pub. 2010) )

"...The bubble top [had a] vinyl covering added on, which covers up all of the bubble top

(when installed) except for that narrow window at the back ... the bubble top with the

vinyl cover [was] added at Parkland Hospital... I have seen a picture of all of the parts of

the bubble top including the vinyl cover laid out on the ground to show how all of the

pieces go together."

"... In case one wonders why they would add the bubble top with vinyl

cover at Parkland, after Kennedy had already been shot and the limousine would no

longer be in use, I would conjecture that it was added to reduce the view of the interior of

the car from witnesses hanging around outside the entrance to the hospital where the

limousine was parked initially. At that point the interior of the car would still have blood

stains and the bullet hole through the front windshield (from front to back according to a

number of witnesses) as well as the indentation in the chrome that is believed to be the

result of a bullet from behind. This installation of the vinyl covered bubble top would help

to reduce the number of witnesses who could see the bullet hole in the windshield. One

of the witnessess who did manage to see the hole in the windshield was remarking upon

it when a SS agent overheard her and got in the car and immediately drove it out of sight

of those other witnesses hanging around outside the hospital."

"Several days after the car was returned to the White House garage and cleaned up [on]

orders from LBJ, (thus destroying evidence) the car was shipped off to the Ford Motor

Company's Rouge Plant in Detroit, Michigan where glass technicians removed the

windshield with the bullet hole in it and used that windshield as a template to make a new

windshield which was then installed to replace the one with the bullet hole. The

supervisor at the plant witnessed the original windshield and stated that "the windshield

had a bullet hole in it, Coming from the outside through." He further stated that "it was a

good clean bullet hole, right straight through from the front. And you can tell, when the

bullet hits the windshield, like when you hit a rock or something, what happens? The

back chips out and the front may just have a pinhole in it . . . this had a clean round hole

in the front and was fragmented in the back." When asked what happened to the original

windshield, the supervisor stated, "We scrapped it, we broke it up and scrapped it." That

supervisor's name was George Whitaker, Sr. and he passed away in 2001. He also

stated that he saw the limousine and the original windshield in the shop on Monday

morning November 25th, 1963. Other witnesses who saw the windshield at the Parkland

Hospital and describe seeing a through and through bullet hole in the windshield include

"Richard Dudman, Stavis Ellis, H. R. Freeman, and Dr. Evalea Galnges." "Secret Service

agent Charles Taylor told the truth too., in 1963 in his written report -- before the

pressure got to him and he recanted in his HSCA affidavit." Subsequently a crack was

added to the new windshield to further muddy the waters and cause confusion and

cast doubt about the statements of those who had seen an actual hole through the

original windshield." All quotes are from Douglas P. Horne's five volume work, "Inside the

Assassination Records Review Board" (pub 2010) (pgs 1439 - 1445).

How "Facts" About Lee Harvey Oswald Can Obscure the Truth

As a witness, in the beginning, I had conflicts with various researchers who had never met Lee Oswald. When I first spoke out, several researchers questioned me who believed firmly in "Harvey and Lee" as two distinct individuals who were used at the same time for years by the CIA. They told me that many facts had come out about the person I knew as "Lee" proving he was really "Harvey" --despite the fact that Lee told me he disliked his middle name and had ceased writing it out, using just the initial, unless required to do so for legal or job interview purposes.

I was given "facts" about Lee that I was told were set-in-stone concerning "Harvey" and how he was betrayed, framed and impersonated in Dallas.

I had no way to know what had happened in Dallas, except through what "experts" told me: I'd avoided reading anything about the assassination until just ready to speak out. I remember stating that "Lee may have taken the gun with him in the hope of gunning down the fake Lee Harvey Oswald" when told that "Lee" was framing him at that time. These statements, and other statements that now look to me quite silly, were in response to what i was told about this hostile fellow "Lee." My confused speculations were based on the "facts" I was given --that "two Oswalds" had existed for many years. it is obvious that Lee was impersonated in Dallas after he moved there. And Lee, himself, told me that he had been impersonated when he was in Mexico City by somebody back in Texas, to make sure he had a "cover" and could deny any activity in Mexico/Mexico City. He, himself, used fake names, as well.

I was not in Dallas, and in my naive ignorance, thought I had received correct information.

Now that I have read all the pertinent information possible, it is plain to me that those who advocate a "Harvey and Lee" scenario that includes two boys selected from late childhood by the CIA, must then reject the truth: Lee telling me that in various ways the CIA had created a plausible "past" for him that even included fake job histories, so upon his return to the US, from the USSR, he would be able to resume a normal life.

Whenever necessary, he would be able to hide his nearly three years spent in the USSR. As for the past, his own mother had created a fake birth certificate by means of a Mafia lawyer close to her and her sister Lillian. And she had done more than that.

The many faked records about Lee, compounded with the usual 'tips' that abound whenever a murder is committed (and in the case of JFK, tips REALLY abounded!) are taken at face value by some researchers as 'evidence" that two boys, "Harvey" and "Lee" existed and were raised to be able to impersonate each other.

This allows the real impersonators to be ignored. They won't be identified and their actual identities thus remain unknown. Yes, there was more than one, even though one particular person posed as Lee in the Texas theater, for example. These researchers do not seem to realize that cover stories, cover jobs, and fake records were means used by the agencies to protect their own, and that not every record could be called accurate, unbiased, or authentic.

I deeply respect the work of researchers in accumulating this information. How it is interpreted, however, sometimes leaves much to desire.

See lola4jvb4lho on YouTube for videos of interest.

Thank you for your support, your encouragement, and your courage in helping me!

J

Films of Lee Oswald--the Martin Shackelford Film List

Marina Oswald was interviewed by Jack Anderson years ago...this video reveals that Lee expressed admiration for Kennedy even in the USSR.



Witnesses have gone on film who knew Lee,as well...



Though Marina -- and I -- can be seen on film, speaking for him, Lee is dead. we only have what has been preserved --and often edited. I have noticed that still photos were often retouched, including a 'smirk' after his arrest in Dallas that I cannot find in any live films. Live films are harder to retouch, though we have evidence that this occurred in the Zapruder film.

Below is one of the films available on YouTube, plus a useful list created by researcher Martin Shackelford that can serve as a base to search on YouTube for some more. Most are still not available on YouTube. As part of Lee's biographical information, these films serve as a good base when trying to separate Lee from imposters.

While Lee told me he knew of impersonators, he welcomed them as serving to protect his true activities. But that backfired in November, 1963. Today some people believe that an individual named "Harvey" and an individual named "Lee" existed as two distinct entities. For many reasons, I believe this theory overextends the truth. Many false tips and faked records have obscured the true Lee Oswald from being understood.it is my hope that everyone reading this blog will read ME & LEE to truly understand the real Lee H. Oswald.



A Good Collection of Extant Films of Lee Harvey Oswald

The Oswald Films: An Outline
by Martin Shackelford



The Oswald Films:An Outline by Martin Shackelford (July 1993)
[updated 4-25-96]
Pre-Assassination. Speculative Films

There may exist presently unknown footage of several types which show Lee Harvey Oswald. One possible type is home movie footage, taken either by members of the
Oswald family, or by relatives, or by people who knew Lee Oswald
(schoolmates and their families, Civil Air Patrol cadets, etc.). A second possible type is home movie footage taken when Oswald was abroad, by tourists on the 2 ships, in Europe or in the Soviet Union or Mexico, or by people who knew him in the Soviet Union (there may be families in possession of such footage who have no idea Oswald is even in it; the Monica Kramer photos of Oswald in the Soviet Union turned up only after an intensive search of tourist photos taken during the relevant time period). A third possible type is footage shot covertly by or for the KGB, the CIA or other intelligence organizations.1.

1. The Home Movie (11-22-62)
In one of the many ironic twists in this case, the
first known motion picture footage of Lee Harvey Oswald was taken one year to the day before the Kennedy Assassination. It was a home movie taken by his brother Robert Oswald's wife Vada when the family gathered that year to celebrate Thanksgiving. Two color frames published in the October 17, 1967 LOOK Magazine excerpt from Robert's book show a smiling Lee Oswald seated on a couch near his half-brother John Pic and Pic's wife, with Marina standing near Lee, and Robert playing with his sons on the floor in the foreground. The two frames are also available from The Collector's Archives (Box 2, Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 5T6). On November 26, 1990, the film was shown on "Hard Copy," a tabloid television show featuring an interview with Robert Oswald, under the title "Oswald's Home
Movie." This may also be available on video from The Collector's
Archives.

==update: YOUTUBE: Robert Oswald's film is shown almost in is entirety here. Robert has always stated that his brother killed Kennedy. He was compromised, however, in many ways,especially how he is linked to the camera that is linked to the infamous backyard photos. My conclusion is that Robert Oswald said what he HAD to say about his brother, due to his involvement with marina and the fact that his brother's supposed deed could ruin his life. I, myself, have suffered for speaking the truth. Robert's TRUE feelings may be hinted at when he says he kissed his brother goodbye as he lay in the coffin. The look on his face displays, I believe, his heart.



THE LOVE AFFAIR AND OTHER BANNED HISTORY CHANNEL FILMS SOWING LEE:
Go to http://www.lee-harvey-oswald.com to view.


2. The New Orleans films
Oswald's activities in New Orleans attracted the attention of both tourists and a professional cameraman.

2a. The Jack Martin Film (8-9-63)
In another of those aforementioned ironic twists, a tourist named Jack Martin was in Dallas in August 1963. His film records his view from the airplane. Next, he visits General Edwin Walker, under whom he had served, allegedly target of an assassination attempt by Lee Oswald in April of that year. The film documents the scene of that attempt: the window through which the shot was fired, the bullet hole, and the wall from behind which it was most likely fired, ending with shots of Walker's flag and mailbox, and a nearby building under construction (allegedly also photographed by Oswald prior to the attempt!) . Then we see the entrance to a movie theater, cypress trees, a seal at the edge of a pool, and the statue of Andrew Jackson in Lafayette Park in New Orleans.
Aroused by a commotion on Canal Street, Martin crossed to see what was happening, and began filming. We see Lee Oswald, leaflets in hand, standing on the sidewalk, being harangued by anti-Castro militants including Carlos Bringuier. Four police officers are seen arriving. The film ends with a view of the yellow leaflets scattered on the sidewalk after Bringuier knocked them out of Oswald's hands, and a brief aerial view of a subdivision. Parts of the film have only been used, to my knowledge, on the French television documentary, "Le Mystere Kennedy."

The documentary is available on video, and frames from the film as well,from The Collector's Archives. A still from this film was finally published in Robert Groden's 1995 book, The Search for Lee Harvey Oswald, an essential photo archive on Oswald.

2b. The James Doyle Film (8-9-63)
James Doyle was a 16 year old teenager, visiting
New Orleans with his family in early August 1963. His film begins in Lafayette Park, New Orleans, and includes a view of the Andrew Jackson statue. He, too, then noticed a commotion along Canal Street, crossed over to investigate, and began filming. Lee Oswald, back to the camera,is talking with Carlos Bringuier, when a police officer arrives, pushes Bringuier aside, and talks with Oswald, who gestures. Oswald is then seen through the crowd, under arrest, obscured, moving to the left, and we see him and the officer at curbside. The film ends with harbor views. To my knowledge, this film has only appeared in one television program, the British "Dispatches: The Day the Dream Died," available (as are frames)
from The Collector's Archives or from All That Video (405 Hopkins Court,North Wales PA 19434, phone (213) 361-1365.) A still from this film was also first published in the 1995 Groden book.

2c. The Johann Rush Films (8-12 & 16-63)
Johann Rush was a news cameraman for WDSU-TV in New Orleans in the August of 1963. He was on hand on August 12 when Lee Oswald appeared at the New Orleans courthouse for sentencing after his August 9 arrest. Rush filmed Oswald's approach, then Oswald posed for the camera in a courthouse corridor. The footage also includes Carlos Bringuier and the Cubans. Rush next filmed Oswald's
leafleting at the International Trade Mart on August 16. This is the
footage which shows Oswald and two colleagues (one of them Charles Steele Jr.) distributing leaflets, a figure in the background alleged to be Clay Shaw, and two foreground figures alleged to be Charles Rogers and Chauncey Holt. I won't attempt to catalog the sources in which bits of this footage appears, although the videotape "The Two Kennedys" (MPI Home Video, 1-800-323-0442, may still carry this title, or try The Collector's Archives) is a good source, and stills from the footage appear in many places.

2d. The WWL-TV Film (8-16-63)
The most famous still, however, is from a brief bit of footage also taken during the August 16 leafleting, but by a rival cameraman for WWL-TV named Mike O'Connor, and shows Oswald thrusting a leaflet toward a passerby. Captioned "Garner Deposition Exhibit 1," it appears in the Warren Report, and the footage is used in various documentaries.

2e. The Mike Lala Film (8-21-63)
The final bit of New Orleans footage was taken by cameraman Mike Lala during an interview of Oswald at WDSU-TV on August 21. It shows Oswald in left profile as he
speaks. In the semi-fictional film "Executive Action"(1973, National General Pictures, Warner Home Video),, the footage is used as a training film for an Oswald impostor. As with the other New Orleans TV footage, it is widely excerpted. The Collector's Archives offers two frames from the film.

Post-Assassination

3. The Ron Reiland Film (11-22-63)
WFAA-TV cameraman Ron Reiland was filming at the site of the Tippit
shooting when police were called to the Texas Theater, and Reiland went with them. As a result, he got the only footage of Oswald's arrest. One dimly lit scene shows Oswald being held by police inside the Texas Theater (underexposed, this appears only on "The Kennedy Tapes," which contains the complete Reiland footage, and on "Films From the Sixth Floor" videotape, which includes the films from the Dallas Book Depository exhibits). He then photographed Oswald being led out, placed into a police car, and driven away.

4. The Arrival Film (11-22-63)
An NBC cameraman filmed Oswald when he arrived at Dallas Police
headquarters, and was led into the Homicide Division offices, past
witness and co-worker Billy Lovelady.

5. The "Press Conference" Films (11-22-63)
Various footage exists from the late-night showing
of Oswald to the press, and this is some of the best-known footage of Oswald in custody. After the video ends on one film, the audio track continues with Oswald's voice for a short time longer.

6. The Hallway Films (11-22 to 24-63)
Soon, the Dallas Police Department
hallways were swarming with reporters and cameramen. There is footage of Oswald being led from room to room at Police Headquarters taken by ABC, NBC, CBS, local stations, and foreign cameramen. This includes the footage of Oswald's various denials: "I didn't shoot anybody, no sir." "I don't know what you people have been told, but I emphatically deny these charges." his statement that this was all happening "because I lived in the Soviet Union," etc. A great many of these films are included in the series "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" (Time-Life Video). There is also Hearst newsreel footage of Oswald in the hallway.

7. The Shooting Films (11-24-63)
ABC footage shows Oswald being led off the
jail elevator, and through the jail office area. Another piece of footage shows Oswald from behind as he moves out toward newsmen in the jail basement. Then a number of cameras (including the three networks and Hearst newsreel) captured him from the front as he is led out, and Jack Ruby lunges forward and shoots him. He is then out of the scene briefly. Most of this footage is also widely available.

8. The Post-Shooting Films (11-24-63)
When the ambulance arrives, Oswald is brought out on a stretcher, and loaded into it. We see Oswald inside as the ambulance
drives away. We next see footage of the ambulance arriving at Parkland Hospital with Oswald, Oswald being pulled out on the stretcher, and rushed into the hospital. This is the last known footage of Oswald alive, as well as the last publicly available. It is widely available.

9. The Exhumation Autopsy Videotape (10-4-81)
Lee Oswald's body was exhumed
on October 4, 1981 at the request of British author Michael Eddowes, with the cooperation of Marina Oswald and over the objections of Robert Oswald. A partial autopsy was performed at Baylor Pathology Laboratories, and the procedure was videotaped. Following a lengthy dispute about possession of the videotape, it is my understanding that Marina Oswald regained possession of it. There are no plans to make it available to researchers, but it may enter the record at some point in the future.

Some Commercial Video Sources of Oswald Footage

"Executive Action" (Warner)
Fictional film includes a variety of New Orleans and Dallas
Oswald footage.

"The Two Kennedys" (MPI)
Includes much of the WDSU footage taken in New Orleans,
as well as some of the Dallas footage.

"John F. Kennedy" (CBS)
This has appeared under various titles, and includes Oswald
Dallas footage.

"The Plot to Kill JFK: Rush to Judgment"(MPI)
includes some Dallas footage of Oswald.

"Four Days in November" (MGM/UA)
This 1964 Wolper documentary includes a variety of the Dallas
Oswald footage.

"The Men Who Killed Kennedy" (Time-Life)
Parts 1, 4 and 5 of this 5-volume set include much of the professional Oswald footage, except for the Johann Rush footage.
(UPDATE: vol. 7-8-9 were banned by the History Channel after objections and threats of lawsuits were made by the usual suspects--LBJ's widow,LBJ former aides Jack Valenti and Bill Moyers, Disney honcho Eisener, and two former Presidents --Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter.Nigle Turner has not been heard of since.).

"Films from the Sixth Floor,"
Available from the exhibit in the Book Depository, includes
much good Oswald footage in the segment "Crisis Hours," including
the rare footage of Oswald still inside the Texas Theater.

"Man Against Humanity"(Front Row)
This low-budget video includes most of the New
Orleans WDSU footage, as well as some Dallas footage.

"Declassified: The Plot to Kill President Kennedy"
an edited version of the Anthony Summers documentary, also includes
a variety of Oswald footage from New Orleans and Dallas.

"Texas News: John F. Kennedy" (Independent Historical Films)
includes Oswald Dallas footage.

"The JFK Assassination: The Jim Garrison Tapes" (Vestron)
includes a variety of New Orleans and Dallas Oswald footage.

"Who Killed JFK? Facts, not Fiction"(CBS)
includes a variety of New Orleans and Dallas footage.

"Beyond "JFK": The Question of Conspiracy"(Warner)
includes much of the New Orleans footage.

"The Assassination of JFK"(MPI)
also includes much of the New Orleans, and some Dallas footage.

Since Shackelford's list, YouTube has exploded on the scene,making much footage available, and hopefully,more to come.

JVB